Saturday, December 2, 2023

The Litecoin MimbleWimble proposal is about Fungibility not Privateness.


A latest article entitled “Breaking MimbleWimble’s privateness mannequin” printed by Ivan Bogatyy has been inflicting a stir because the creator claims of a “new assault” that ‘traces 96% of all (MimbleWimble) sender and recipient addresses in actual time’. The assault prices $60/week of AWS (Amazon Internet Providers) one thing that leads Bogatyy to conculde that:

“Mimblewimble’s privateness is essentially flawed.” (and) “ought to not be thought-about a viable various to Zcash or Monero on the subject of privateness.”

The issue is that no MimbleWimble (MW) developer has ever claimed the protocol was non-public or that it was on par with an asset similar to Monero on this regard, as such Bogatyy’s article engages in a false equivalence fallacy. The considerations raised have been already recognized to these engaged on the venture. David Burkett, a member of the Grin++ staff who helps lead the Litecoin MW implementation, weighed in by way of twitter, to handle the state of affairs:

“Actually superior write-up, however none of that is “information”. I’m truly stunned solely 96% was traceable. There are a variety of the way to assist break linkability in Grin, however none are applied and launched but. As I all the time say, don’t use Grin in the event you require privateness — it’s not there but.”

A counter article from Daniel Lehnberg, a Grin developer, was later printed to offer additional clarification and dispel the factual inaccuracies and sensationalised claims:

“This isn’t new to anybody on the Grin staff or anybody who has studied the Mimblewimble protocol. Grin acknowledged the flexibility to hyperlink outputs on chain in a Privateness Primer printed on its public wiki in November 2018, earlier than mainnet was launched. This downside encompasses Ian Mier’s “Flashlight assault”, which we’ve listed as one in all our Open Analysis Issues.”
“TL;DR: Mimblewimble privateness is just not “essentially flawed”. The described “assault” on Mimblewimble/Grin is a misunderstanding of a recognized limitation. Whereas the article supplies some fascinating numbers on community evaluation, the outcomes introduced don’t truly represent an assault, nor do they again up the sensationalized claims made.”

Litecoin creator Charlie Lee adopted in a tweet of his personal stating:

“This limitation of MimbleWimble protocol is well-known. MW is mainly Confidential Transactions with scaling advantages and slight unlinkability. To get a lot better privateness, you’ll be able to nonetheless use CoinJoin earlier than broadcasting and CJ works rather well with MW attributable to CT and aggregation.”

The principle attraction of MW and the explanation the Litecoin Core staff wish to implement help for it, has primarily been its skill to offer community fungibility, future scalability and ‘higher’ (not full) privateness.

Fungibility is derived from the inclusion of confidential transactions (CT) whereby the worth despatched over the community is hidden but verifiable. This implies when interacting with different individuals on the community they wont be capable of look again and know the way a lot Litecoin you personal. Scalability then again comes from the massively pruneable nature of the protocol and the truth that, when paired with extension blocks, the Litecoin community may have a blocksize improve with out the necessity for a contentious exhausting fork.

MW affords solely pseudo-privacy and that is what Bogatyy’s article discusses. By snapshotting transactions earlier than they endure the coin becoming a member of course of it’s nonetheless doable to trace community participant interactions. Customers can privately coinjoin utilizing a trusted occasion earlier than broadcasting, nevertheless, this introduces a 3rd occasion who might then later promote that knowledge on, so it’s removed from a really perfect resolution.

Coinjoins mixed with confidential transactions nevertheless, does present an enough stage of privateness over the present state of affairs. The typical person doesn’t have the time, sources or know tips on how to setup such a monitoring system. This doesn’t imply privateness is to not be pursued, for one, MW would not truly use addresses, as a substitute worth is transferred by including one-time outputs to a transaction. In flip offering higher privateness because it turns into unimaginable to re-use addresses.

One good take away is that it’s unlikely incumbent exchanges will delist Litecoin attributable to regulatory difficulty individuals have raised and hopefully extra individuals will start to grasp the character of MW. Full fungability remains to be a purpose to goal for going ahead and is somthing Lee awknowledges stating:

“There’s a variety of work to be performed. Privateness and fungability shall be an ongoing battle.”



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